even those that voted against us, most of them don't see us that way. so that is the problem. i think it's an underestimating of your opponent's strength and the reality of how people view them. and there was a ridicule that i think -- i don't fully understand the impact it played in the election but i know it played a deep impact. and listen, as i said, our party has gone through that before which was a disbelief that president bush could be re-elected in 2004. people saw it differently. >> i think there are a number of legitimate policy criticisms of president obama. and there are issue that is he's advanced in the country that i just disagree with. however, if you go back to mitt romney's book, what was the title. no apology. inferring that the president runs around the world apologizing for america. not true. that never happened. the birther nonsense. the attempts to delegitimize the president that he wasn't born in hawaii, that he is on alien imposter in the oval office, the conspiracy began 20 years ago. all of this deranged nonsense had a terrible impact not on the pres